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Maybe you are thinking about stack bonus formula and topic?
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=26143

Hello,
I recall having read a forum post or two where Dave posted the damage roll formula in a comment, but have been unable to find them. I wanted to use the formula as an excuse to review statistics.
It's slightly more complicated than one may expect. I recall that it slightly favors larger stacks.

Does anyone know where I can find the formula?

I'm not convinced it's a good idea to only buff the USA. Maybe smaller buffs to the USA, and then also Latin America and Canada. If you give a huge income boost to the US, you end up making it less feasible to play as some other country in the Americas. I'm also not 100% convinced that the game needs balancing in this respect.

While the EU and Asia can form an alliance, the Americas can ally with one or the other as well. Also, certain strats would probably be OP in the US after these changes.

The fact that most of the world is not the Americas, and that the Americas are separated from everything else by the ocean, implies that once someone controls the Americas, it should be possible to launch an attack against Oceana, Africa, Europe or Asia, possibly with minimal resistance in at least one of those areas. From Oceana, you can start attacking Asia and Africa, and from Africa, you can attack the other three continents(Europe, Asia and Australia(Oceana)).

There is an expansion bottleneck once you take all of the Americas, but maybe focus on Oceana and/or Africa before finishing SA, so that your rate of expansion doesn't slow down?

Also, I don't know if it's a good idea to make the map 100% reflect the real world. India/China already have a high population in game, but if they reflected the real world, it could be game breaking(each of them would have more population than all of the Americas together, with 1.37b for China, and 1.23b for India).
According to the internet, the population by continent is:
North America: 613million
South America:435million
Europe:744million
Asia:4.95billion
Africa:1.5billion
Oceana:46million

If economy and population reflected the real world, the way to win would be to select PD as your strat, pick India, and mass produce infantry, or pick RA and mass produce tanks(in any game starting at 25k, possibly even as low as 10k). Imperialist India would also be epic.

America is more powerful, not because of the number or cost of troops, but because of the economy and technology, as well as various aspects of post WWII foreign policy.
A map that properly reflects the real world would not make sense for atWar(at least in the default map).

Again, I recommend expanding into one of the other continents before finishing your expansion into SA.

Perhaps try experimenting with NC California/East Coast USA, using destroyers & ocean transports with infantry to take the coasts, and then hit Africa/Oceana while also striking inland after taking Mexico, Central America and some of the inland US territories?
When I play NC, I also use a few subs to hit poorly defended enemy cities, which is a big help in certain situations(cost wise, transports with infantry are definitely better, so subs should be secondary).
There should be good ways of attacking other continents from the Americas with other strats too, I just like NC.

With most strats, I would definitely still recommend sending escorted transports into Oceana/Africa as early as is manageable(or Europe/Asia, but those are probably owned by someone else/bigger players).

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New Game Starting Now

New World Empires XIV by Niki

https://atwar-game.com/games/?link=7518335530

1. What's New

Hello everyone and welcome to game 14 of the New World Empires game series. Thanks to Elijah for the original map and scenario: (New World Empires at War (v6) by Elijah).

I would like to take this opportunity to relay the results of the recent poll. For those of you who did not participate, the poll question was, 'What is your preferred turn duration.' The response was overwhelmingly in favour of 48 hour turn games. Thanks to all who participated and 48 hour turns it is:

12 Hour turns: 20%
24 hour turns 25%
48 hour turns: 55%

Finally, this game will feature zero (0) allies. You are free to make informal alliances and non-aggression pacts but there will be no formal alliances unless agreed to by all of the game participants. Let's see how it goes.

2. Game Protocols

Please observe the following game protocols:
• Do not attack other players on turn one (1). Give other players a chance to 'set up'.
• Always be considerate of other players. Unsportsmanlike conduct will not be tolerated.
• Do not leave a game by timing out. If you have lost the game, surrender.
• Take your turn in a timely manner. Don't be the last player to take your turn every turn.
• Players are no longer restricted to their home countries on turn one.

3. Settings

• Starting funds are $50,000
• Capture player country for three (3) turns
• Maximum number of initial territories that can be selected is one (1)
• Maximum number of allies is zero (0)
• Maximum number of players is twenty (20)
• Maximum number of turns is two hundred (200)
• Minimum rank is five (5)
• Turn duration is twelve (48) hours

4. Player's Invitation List

The Player's Invitation List is managed as follows:

You will be added to the Player's Invitation List if:
• You are a new coalition member.
• You have joined a coalition game (coalition and non-coalition players).

You will be removed from the Player's Invitation List if:
• You have been inactive in atWar for 10 days or longer as of the game date.
• You request to be removed. All requests are final. No dithering please.
• You have been banned from coalition games.
• Niki Coalition Leaders and Officers are de facto members of the Player's Invitation List.

5. About Niki

Niki is the largest atWar coalition and one of the coalitions in atWar that specializes in casual gaming. Take your game to the next level. For more information on how to join, contact myself or any of the coalition Leaders or Officers. Niki, the coalition of choice for casual gamers.

https://atwar-game.com/cln/cln.php?cln_id=639

Good luck to all and enjoy…

Написао Dave, 17.08.2024 at 02:52

I'm not saying I wouldn't have banned those same players for some of their behaviour, but nurturing the comp scene will only help the game. You can't turn back time or wish on the past. If this was my puppy I'd adapt it for mobile and encourage the comp scene to grow out of it from scratch, with simple intuitive mechanics and a map generation system to keep it fresh. AI is a massive task for a game of this scale with limited upside, why build an AI when its easier to refine the game and have real people play that might actually make you money?

Also the reason AW made money during covid is down to the loyal player base... those that it was able to retain. You need to rebuild that magic, out of competition you build a thriving community, that community puts money into the game... sure theres still a community now but it's a shade of its former self. I dont much care for statistics, I know what it was, because I lived it and remember watching friends I made on here slowly disappear, but a game with a strong community keeps people coming back.

Casual Saturday #3 - Regular Europe+
10k - FFA - No Insurrection allowed
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Написао GayRusherLIKEVER, 18.05.2024 at 17:14

We are completly in the Dark about Dave's whereabouts. promises to be back in january 2023 only to be in may 2024 without any knowledge of where he is. We don't know how profitable the game even is; or if Dave is planning to shut off the servers at any moment. The servers are being paid by someone who we are unaware of his whereabouts... and who also refuses to sell despite clearly not having the time for the game. Isn't it scary that the servers could get turned off at any minute?

Don't worry, the servers will not be shut off as long as I'm the owner. (Or maybe I shouldn't say that and let you all be afraid, so you'll play more while you still can? )

Anyway all the staff know how to reach me. I usually get back to them within a day or two.

You can relax

Написао Oleg, 20.08.2024 at 06:07

Fox News, Daily Mail, NBC, CNN - I do not take any information for granted. My conclusions about Trump are mostly made from watching his interviews and rallies throughout the years. I myself vote in my country for the option which is more similiar to Republican Party, just more liberal when it comes social issues. Republican Party today would be much better positioned without Trump.
I mean, the guy sells bibles, sneakers and perfume... Presidential candidate!

Okay, thanks for sharing. I respect your opinion even though its different from my own. I still love Trump

Regarding the 2nd "accomplishment" pertaining to unemployment... I just heard another way that the employment numbers are misleading is that so many people are working multiple jobs now just to make ends meet. I know first-hand several people in this category. Does the government count it as 2 jobs "created" even if its only 1 person working both? (i think they do)

There's also the fact (which ties back to inflation) that real wages are down so much that people are forced to take multiple jobs just to pay for things.

Написао Oleg, 18.08.2024 at 16:29

Genuine question, I'm curious... what sources of information do you read/listen to that helped shape your opinion here?

Not trying to change your opinion, just curious.

Написао Oleg, 17.08.2024 at 02:08

Nice summation and I agree with all the section 2 suggestions. Don't know when I'll get around to implementing any of those (because... time) but hopefully I can at some point.

I really wish Amok & Ivan hadn't offered the lifetime option.... they gained a lot of money off that (so in a sense, I guess it was a good business decision for them) but it's not a sustainable business model. Unfortunately for me the fact that they did and the community got so used to it meant that its very difficult to stop doing now. So I guess we're stuck with it.... but it really should cost more at this point.

For a brief time, when we had the Covid spike, it looked like atWar might have profit potential as a business after all, and I did my best to take advantage of that opportunity... but ultimately it faded away again. So AW returned to the status of "hobby I work on when I have time", where it comfortably remains....

Ever since he dropped out of the re-election campaign, I've been hearing so much glowing praise for Biden and what a "great" President he is. Nancy Pelosi even said he was a "Mt. Rushmore kind of President". What has he done to put himself on par with George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Theodore Roosevelt?

Hearing and reading all of this has been so confusing to me, like living in some alternate reality where the things I see with my own eyes and experience in my daily life are the opposite of what I'm being told. Imagine if one day all the TV networks and all the newspapers proclaimed that the sky is green and 1+1=3 -- that's the how I feel watching the coverage about Biden. And then you look around and see half the people out there nodding in agreement as if to say "yes, the sky is green and it's always been green, isn't that great?"

Still, it's enough to make you question your own sanity, even if for just a moment. So after hearing all this praise for Biden and being totally baffled by it, I thought to myself, "am I the one who's wrong? Did he really do great things and I just missed it somehow?"

In this context, I decided to make an honest, good-faith effort to find out what exactly the other side likes so much about this man. I went to the mainstream regime-controlled search engine (i.e. Google) and typed in "Biden accomplishments".



The first search result is something called "The Biden-Harris Record" at whitehouse.gov -- sounds like a pretty official, legit source of information to me. So I click it and find a list of "Top Accomplishments" -- nothing better than getting it directly from the source as to why they think they're so great, right?

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The first accomplishment they cite is "Lowering Costs of Families' Everyday Expenses". They even have a fancy-looking infographic for it:



They cite a couple of things like lowering the cost of insulin and capping prescription drugs, blah blah blah. None of those apply to me so I don't know if that's true. All I know for sure is the cost of everything I buy has gone up tremendously -- food, groceries, gasoline, everything cost way more than ever before. I can't be the only one who's noticed this, but they say nothing about it. Am I.... crazy here? Does nobody else go to the grocery store?

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2nd accomplishment: "More People Are Working Than At Any Point In American History".... I don't know but I'm going to assume that's true because there are also more people living in this country than at any point in American history. What matters is the percentage of those who want to work who can't find jobs. To this point they claim that unemployment is at the "historically low" rate of 3.5%, but I know this number is misleading because a lot of people who couldn't find work just gave up and stopped looking. Especially after the pandemic. A lot of people have ended up doing some combination of side hustles or working under the table, or just not working at all and living off others. I'm not an economist so I can't give you an estimate, but I'm pretty sure just from what I've seen that there are a LOT of people without jobs who just aren't being counted as unemployed anymore.

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3rd accomplishment: "Making More in America" -- claims companies have "announced nearly $300 billion in manufacturing investments in the United States." I don't know anything about this so I'll pass on it, except to note that just because an investment has been announced does not mean it has actually occurred yet, nor does it mean those companies can't still change their minds. No exact numbers are given for how many new factories were built or how many actual jobs were created, so I view this claim with skepticism.

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4th accomplishment: "Rescued the Economy and Changed the Course of the Pandemic" -- I call bullshit on that. Trump had already turned the economy around before he left office, in the sense that it was already starting to recover. Biden then comes towards the end of that and wants to take credit for the whole thing? Anyone who was paying attention at the time would know it was Trump who instituted several rounds of economic stimulus plans (whether you agree with his policies or not). Biden walked into office and literally didn't have to do anything but continue Trump's existing policies. (Although in other ways Biden made things considerably worse, primarily with his anti-drilling, anti-energy policies that quickly made the price of gas skyrocket and in large part triggered the massive inflation problem, which had not been a problem during the Trump years.)

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5th accomplishment: "Rebuilding our Infrastructure" -- I agree with the need to rebuild our infrastructure, but I have not seen any progress made in the last 4 years. Maybe I'm wrong and Biden has built a ton of stuff somewhere else in the country, but where I live and work I haven't seen a damn thing.

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6th accomplishment: "Historic Expansion of Benefits and Services for Toxic Exposed Veterans" -- I'm not a veteran so I don't know if this is true. I certainly hope it is and that we are taking care of our vets.

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7th accomplishment: "The First Meaningful Gun Violence Reduction Legislation in 30 Years" -- I'm sorry but you can't reduce gun violence by legislation. You reduce gun violence by putting violent people in prison and keeping them there. You reduce gun violence by putting mentally ill people in hospitals and keeping them there. Show me the numbers for how much gun crimes have gone up or down since Biden's legislation, then we'll talk (since they don't tell you, I'm betting it hasn't gone down....)

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8th accomplishment: "Protected Marriage for LGBTQI+ and Interracial Couples" -- okay fine. I thought that gay marriage already became a thing under Obama... I'm not sure what exactly Biden felt needed additional protection, but sure whatever.

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9th accomplishment: "Historic Confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and Federal Judges of Diverse Backgrounds" -- in other words, we choose judges now primarily on the basis of their sex and/or skin color (isn't that the definition of racism?), rather than that silly old way we used to pick judges where we hired the most experienced, most qualified person regardless of what they looked like. DEI hires doesn't seem like a step forward to me. (What ever happened to MLK's line about judging people not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character?)

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10th accomplishment: "Rallied the World to Support Ukraine in Response to Putin's Aggression". This is a big topic but the short version is this: 1) it's pretty clear the U.S. had a definite role in provoking the war (you can debate what our motives were). 2) we've sent a LOT of money over to Ukraine, money that we could have better spent on our own people and problems. 3) A LOT of Ukrainians (and Russians too) are now dead while the war still goes on.

None of that sounds like a win to me.

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11th accomplishment: "Strengthened Alliances and Partnerships to Deliver for the American People" -- mostly he's talking about strengthening NATO, which seems like more of a benefit to everyone else in NATO than to Americans. If China or Russia invaded the US tomorrow (not likely but just for sake of argument), I really don't see Finland or Sweden coming to save us. More likely the other way around.

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12th accomplishment: "Successful Counterterrorism Missions Against the Leaders of Al Qaeda and ISIS" -- okay sure, killing terrorists is good, so I'll give Biden the win on this one. Then again, he did leave what, $80 billion-some-odd of military equipment behind in Afghanistan, which I'm pretty sure isn't going to any good guys....

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13th accomplishment: "Executive Orders Protecting Reproductive Rights" -- I'll have to disagree on this one since I see abortion as morally wrong (with maybe a few very limited exceptions). But sure some people (not me) might see this as a win.

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14th accomplishment: "Historic Student Debt Relief for Middle and Working Families" -- this pisses me off. I was such a dummy, I actually worked and paid my own way through college. If I had known that Biden would come a long 20 years later and just cancel those debts, why did I bother working so hard? This is a blatant attempt to buy the young college vote of today, but it's a slap in the face to those of us in the previous generation who worked so hard.

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15th accomplishment: "Ending our Failed Approach to Marijuana" -- I've never used Marijuana and never will, so this is not particularly important to me, but as a libertarian-minded person I suppose in principle that Marijuana should be legalized everywhere. So that's fine and all.... but I do find the irony amusing that Harris, back when she was a DA, put so many people in prison for minor marijuana possession. I bet she doesn't want to mention that now!

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16th accomplishment: "Advancing Equity and Racial Justice, Including Historic Criminal Justice Reform" -- all I know is that racial tensions/divides have gotten worse during Biden's time, not better. I'm really not sure what Biden thinks he did to make it "better".

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17th accomplishment: "Delivering on the Most Aggressive Climate and Environmental Justice Agenda in American History" -- sounds like destroying our economy for no concrete benefit to the environment. Sounds like the environmentalists, the solar panel manufacturers, the wind turbine manufacturers, and who-knows who else are getting rich in the name of "saving the environment". I love the outdoors and I want clean air, clean water, etc... who wouldn't? But telling us all to drive electric cars and paying for carbon offsets doesn't seem like the answer.

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18th accomplishment: "More People with Health Insurance than Ever Before" -- again there are also more people living in America than ever before... has the percentage changed? All I know is that health insurance is fucking expensive, and gets more and more expensive every year. And the coverage is shitty. My wife has actually started getting healthcare internationally because it's cheaper and the quality of service is better. The U.S. healthcare system is totally fucked -- not an accomplishment to be proud of.

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So there you have it, direct from the source what Biden thinks are his greatest accomplishments. I'm sorry, I don't see any greatness here. I see a lot of bullshit, lies, and even if I give him 1 or 2 technical "wins" they are to do with issues that are really not that important in the grand scheme of things. What I see (and what's important to me) is that our economy is a total disaster and on the verge of collapse. I see a country that is no longer respected abroad. I see millions of people entering this country illegally with no vetting whatsoever. I was awake and paying attention between 2016-2020 and I remember things were so much better, not that long ago!

Tell me... what am I missing here?

Написао Phoenix, 16.08.2024 at 02:34

The real reason is that a lot of people came here to play a competitive game and the rank and clan war system was what the vast majority of players were here for in 2014/15 when the game started. But there was no emphasis on expanding the competitive scene or nursing it and making rules or a solid ranked system. These elements were not nurtured early on because ivan and Amok wanted to sell it very early on... they outsourced a lot of responsibility to mods (free) and made sun tzu an admin as the game was failing which was a poor choice and he made some weird decisions while also having his hands tied with regards to things that mattered. So over time people got bored and left. Since 2016/2017 RP was bigger but the game was already dying... player retention was poor and those in charge never appreciated this... in 2020/21 Dave was the owner and he had a disagreement with the core of the old comp community... we're talking about the few guys left that loved comp games and caused a few of us to come back and continue playing comp during covid. Then one day he banned some of those players and a lot of the remaining guys deleted their accounts in protest.... AW was already dying with the player base dwindling. But alienating the core player base that made clans relevent was what killed it. There use to be guys who played this game like a sport... opi, laochra, eagles, mauzer, commando, soldier001, creyente, Clovis and these are just some of those guys that the community looked up to... theres a history to this game most of you will never know. To get a glimpse of what it was all you need to do is search players by elo...

In my opinion (and I think I've said this before) the "comp community" is just not that important. When I researched this in detail a couple years ago, I found that the comp community is very vocal but very small part of atWar. The vast majority of our users was, and still is, first-timers and random users passing through. However atWar has an incredibly low retention rate, so few of those stick around.

I don't think getting rid of a few obnoxious players rises to the level of "alientating [a] core player base", and I don't think those few's "loss" has impacted our numbers in any significant way. Sure they made a lot of noise about it, but that was all it was -- noise. If you look at the numbers it's been one long continuous decline (except for a brief spike during Covid) from at least 2017 until now, and nothing I've done has been able to change that one way or the other.

If I were to pick the one thing that would help atWar the most, it would be an AI to play against. First-timers don't have the patience to wait for games to fill, or else they get into games with players who grossly outmatch them and get killed instantly. Either way that's no fun, so no wonder people leave. An AI player would completely solve this problem and allow people to get into the game more easily.

I find it amusing that in the poll above people voted for "no marketing". Those people must be completely unaware of the literally thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours we spent marketing the game, to no avail. Sure we got more raw traffic, but the retention just wasn't there, same as now. It was a tremendous waste of time and money, and will always be a waste unless/until something fundamental changes about the game (like the addition of an AI).

Oh well. We can still reboot atWar someday if/when time & money become more abundant for such an overhaul. Until then, it is what it is.

Написао Metyu, 09.08.2024 at 09:40

Написао Oleg, 08.08.2024 at 06:43

The Visionary Leadership of Amok and Ivan

The illustrious Amok and Ivan, true visionaries from Estonia, are poised to bring their innovative spirit and adaptability to the highest office. Did you know that during their reign, atWar servers were hosted in none other than Kenya? Yes, you heard that right! This bold move showcased their exceptional ability to think outside the box, maintaining peak performance even in the face of adversity. Their global perspective and ability to optimize under any circumstances make them the perfect candidates to lead a nation into a bright, interconnected future.

Fake news! They were hosted in Somalia until Djiboutian pirates co operated with Waffel to take them down.

^^ This is true

Harris: Now is the time for leaders who understand the importance of leading, because importance is important, and we need leaders who understand the importance of importance...
Trump: I...
Harris: Excuse me, I'm speaking. As I was saying, this is an important time for leaders to lead by leading because that's what leaders do, when the time is a time of importance, like the present time.

Disgraceful

Love the soundtrack! o7

This popped up on my radar and it made me think of your post which I had seen earlier:
https://x.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1813397407000043955

The same thing has been going on in the US with the Biden Administration bussing and/or flying illegal immigrants from the border area into the interior of our country.

I think its yet another manifestation of the "woke mind virus".... "oh these immigrants are so poor we must help them at all costs", even if it means the destruction of our own culture. People who truly believe in this stuff maybe even WANT the destruction of our own culture because of historical transgressions that we can never (apparently) make up for nor move on from. Or they cleverly try to sidestep the fact that we even have a culture worth saving by saying "America is a culture of immigrants", as if all our culture came from somewhere else and we've created nothing unique of our own.

I don't fault immigrants for wanting a better life for themselves, and helping them as much as we can is a noble thing to do. What's missing these days is that preserving our culture is important too. That's why there used to be sensible limits on how many immigrants we take in... you don't just open the floodgates and thereby transform your country into something else. But for political purposes that's exactly what the people running our country are trying to do... transform us into something else. (Obama said it himself that he wanted to "fundamentally tranform" our country... and here we see the results.)

Ireland is a beautiful country with lovely people and a culture worth preserving and I certainly hope you do... glad to see some Irish are starting to stand up for themselves.

Написао RebelLord, 21.07.2024 at 14:21

Написао Dave, 13.07.2024 at 18:15

Praying that President Trump is okay. This is the only man who can save our country.

Man leave politics out of here

It's the off-topic forum, lots of people talk politics here. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it.

Написао Homero, 21.07.2024 at 05:54

Написао Dave, 21.07.2024 at 04:47

My personal opinion is not atWar's official opinion. I'm not "here as an admin"... I'm here as an ordinary person posting in offtopic.

atWar the company is neutral and does not get involved in politics.

And there is no war in Ukraine, just a special military operation, Russia is not an aggressor it is in fact an innocent defender who didndu nuffin wrong ever, and it has accomplished all of its goals, thank you very much.
You are posting from The Admin account of this game, pinning/promoting the topics (they are the first thing you see on the main page marked as important).
Nice try though.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but you are the admin. As I said, I don't like the mainstream media myself. If the BBC, CNN, FoxNews of the world suffer and burn down maybe something better would rise from the ashes.

Elon Musk endorsed President Trump on X. Elon Musk. Not X. Not Tesla. Not SpaceX. Just Elon. People are people, not their jobs.

Likewise I've always felt free to talk politics in my personal capacity on atWar, and will continue to do so. My personal right to freedom of speech does not end because coincidentally I happen to be an admin here. I don't use any special privileges for my personal posts -- anybody can promote a post and it will appear on the homepage, that's nothing unique to me.

I'm sorry you are unable to understand the difference between a personal post and an official post, but they really are separate things and I do hope you figure that out someday.

P.S. I don't understand what Ukraine has to do with this conversation at all.

Написао sirivann, 16.07.2024 at 16:59

Entire worlds middle class has to pay for the economic damage and spending done during covid. Right or Left parties dont matter as seen worldwide we are either way getting ass raped by inflation.

This is true

Написао Homero, 16.07.2024 at 12:38

I would preferred if you wouldn't insert your politics into my games. I know it is important, you care, I agree with the sentiment but I hate when politics are being mixed with my escapism and entertainment. As an admin I think you shouldn't take sides.

My personal opinion is not atWar's official opinion. I'm not "here as an admin"... I'm here as an ordinary person posting in offtopic.

atWar the company is neutral and does not get involved in politics.

Написао MrPhobos, 15.07.2024 at 10:09

i just dont like casual

Casual is the best.

Написао ChudyI, 15.07.2024 at 17:10

Tech jobs can't be your marker for the entire economy. Half of Americans don't even have a college degree.

It's not the only marker. I also own a business totally outside of the tech industry and it's hurting because people just don't have the money to spend like they used to.

In my life I don't know a single person who's better off now than they were 4 years ago, financially speaking.

Написао Nanoknight, 15.07.2024 at 05:58

So eh that photo of Dave with a " Bidin' " cap was photoshopped by Zoe? Lol

Are you kidding? I hate Biden with a passion. I've been 100% for Trump ever since 2016.

Only took that photo because I lost a bet with Sid.

Написао sirivann, 14.07.2024 at 16:15

I like how ppl from both sides be saying trump or biden will save the country as if both old cunts werent already president and didnt do shit xD

Business was good for 3.5 years under Trump until Covid hit.... and business has been shit the entire time under Biden. If I didn't know anything else about either man, this should be enough.

This tells you all you need to know about the "mainstream" media. BBC won't even admit that Trump was shot. Look how they weasel out of it.... "Trump rushed off stage at rally as bangs heard". Really?!?



Compare to the "alternative" media which actually tells the truth: