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It's okay, just pay me and Sid the usual $ bribe and we'll look the other way, no worries....

@Eridans, thanks for compiling this list, although it's not strictly necessary, the Meta Team has already made a their own list. We've been talking about all these things already on Discord where we meet.

Some things will definitely be fixed, like the spelling mistakes.

Some things will be changed, like air units taking cities: I was the one who made helicopters able to take cities -- because I think they should -- but probably the meta team will undo it.

Some countries just won't be on the map because it becomes to crowded. This wasn't a mistake, it was a deliberate decision. For example I could add to your list Montserrat, St. Kitts & Nevis, and the British Virign Islands. These are located so close to other countries which we already do have on the map (Antigua and Barbuda, Anguilla, and the US Virigin Islands, respectively) there literally was no room to fit them in. I think Northern Cyprus is the same problem. As for Andorra and San Marino it's up to the Meta Team....

Lastly, some things will definitely NOT change -- I refuse to remove Crimea from Ukraine. I will reject any update from the Meta Team that were to do so. Yes, this is a political statement on my part. Disagree with me if you want. But I have Ukrainian friends and I wish to support their cause. Even before the 2022 invasion I was refusing to accept Russia's annexation of Crimea.

Moved to "ideas and suggestions" which seems more appropriate for this kind of discussion..

Написао Zephyrusu, 02.04.2022 at 21:26

This feels targeted...

Написао Mridontcare, 31.03.2022 at 23:38

But to have a new map be premium is a bod move

It's not. It's open to everybody

Написао Reichsheer, 30.03.2022 at 12:35

So I decided to create a new map https://prnt.sc/rTE7qrZ3Bmdw
It's stuck

Okay then please open a bug report here https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=39713 and tell me the exact steps you did so I can try to reproduce it...

Not everything I say is a veiled threat. I just meant you are either likely to quit playing or be banned for something stupid given how youve been recently, (and not by me).

*I did edit my post and talk to Alex to clear up what i said*

Написао Reichsheer, 29.03.2022 at 16:47

My scenarios 'Colonial RP - Charlemagne', 'European Powers (1700's GGG)', 'New World Coming - RP', 'Medieval Empires AtWar RP', 'Qing Vs Joseon & Japan (1750's GGG)', 'GGG: Alt History (EU)' are all uneditable with the error code 'Error: TypeError: b.getSource() is undefined, Script: https://atwar-game.com/java/game/atwar.game.min.js?v=202203241749, Line: 1, Column: 654189'

Unfortunately some maps that were broken by old versions of the map editor are permanently broken, there's not much I can do about that. However if you're creating new maps you shouldn't have any problems now.

Написао Reichsheer, 29.03.2022 at 16:47

And occasionally when trying to connect to edit a map; it doesn't load (forgotten the exact sentence that comes up) and I must close down the atwar tab/go back a page on the browser (sometimes multiple times) for it to actually let me into the map. This can't be an issue on my side and I've tried different computers/browsers, I've recently moved houses and have very good internet speeds.

Edit: when saving changes, they sometimes wouldn't register the next time I loaded the map too (this I approached both Mobster and Sid on)

It takes the system a few minutes to update after you've made any significant changes. There's also the possibility you might need to clear your browser cache. But if a few minutes have gone by and you've cleared your cache, and are still having problems, then you can report them here: https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=39713. I do read them and fix things as I can

World map 2.0 has a positive reception. I took like 2-3 hours on its release to get opinions and I got no bad reviews. Kaskas poll reflects that. Let's just set it to be the default once the kinks are worked out and not care about what people like this guy thinks.

Написао Reichsheer, 29.03.2022 at 16:06

Mapmaking bugs should be a priority atm. I'm grateful for the changes but I still experience the same issues with mapmaking that I did 4+ years ago.
Mapmaking is one of the main reasons to buy premium too and helps freshen the community with new maps

Edit: [One!] of the reasons I didn't play for three years was because of mapmaking issues!

When was the last time you tried making a map?

Because I literally just spent the last month fixing a shit ton of bugs in the map editor so we could get World Map 2.0 released...

This community *says* they want updates, but they really don't.

This has been my experience with AW since the beginning. People complain about "no updates" => I give an update => they hate it and don't use it => cycle repeats. I've concluded what this community really wants is to play the same way they've always played. They still want to complain for the enjoyment of complaining, but they don't really want any changes.

I try to keep it possible for the old players to continue playing the way they always have, but my real focus is on developing the game for new players.

Shalom!

Написао Zoyarox, 26.03.2022 at 01:48

Looks great, looking forward to see it in practice!

The presets don't seem to work as of now, the start screen scrolls and zooms to the designated preset area, but all countries on the map can be taken as starting countries and are available to be conquered during the game.

We had a problem with the deployment but it is fixed now, all the presets are working again.

Написао Tribune Aquila, 25.03.2022 at 06:15

Well I don't need to see any more, I think we've found our winner everybody

Написао smegma lover, 13.03.2022 at 07:41

Apparently its close to being finished. So...
Extended for the billionth time. New deadline March 31, 2022.

So I was confused here, but the meta team's World Map 2.0 is a totally different thing, separate from this contest. So let's talk and figure out how we want to handle the contest. It doesn't matter when the official map comes out...

With 40,000 of Russia's force already down for the count, it's impossible for them to win. Ukraine will come out on top, and everyone will help them rebuild.

Написао Rock Lee, 24.03.2022 at 14:03

While we are at it, My goos friebd Trystane got banned forever for saying "Thanks Croat!" In public.

This is a lie. We never ban anyone for something so small, and you should know this. He had a long history of problems.

CPU: Intel i7-10700
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti (old, I know...)
RAM: 32 GB DDR4
Storage: 1 TB SSD + 1 TB HD

Let's see those PC's. I'll compile them all into a chart to rank all of our computers. For simplicity sake, i'll only be looking at CPU, GPU, and RAM for the chart but include more details if you want! Also include if it's a laptop.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
RAM: 32 GB DDR4
Storage: 1 TB SSD + 14 TB HDD

Is 4chan back? But for real, depends on the details bro, what field, where are you, job details, etc. Hope you're good now though mentally.

Moved to offtopic as well.

Написао I_Hate_You_All, 17.03.2022 at 18:30

Bug Report
Expected behavior
When i play casual or long games with my map 1600's Age of Empires, i expect to be able to play normally after turn 15.

Actual behavior
If you play with the map 1600's Age of Empires and clones/presets of them like Riddle of Steel by Your Laki after turn 15 and with minimum 3/4 players, you can't connect to the game and the chat tab shows a lot of stuff related related to this bug, mainly "error stack trace in x, y". Many guys can actually rejoin to keep paying the game but many others like me can't rejoin to it. Laki said its possible if you try many times reloading the page, but that never worked for me while playing that map in specific-

Steps to reproduce the behavior

1. Make a casual or normal game on the map with 3/4 people minimum.
2. Play till turn 15 or 20, after those turns you will see all kinds of bug related stuffs on the chat tab and you can't rejoin to play the game.

Information:
Browser: Chrome

Browser version: 99.0.4844.51 (the most recent)

OS: Windows 10

Any other relevant information:

I thinked this stuff was related to the recent bug Dave fixed related to amount of troops on the map, but it seems the bug its still on this specific map.

I tried playing the map in question for 20 turns, but didn't get any errors. Of course it might be just by chance, who knows.

Do you remember the last time it happened? If I can know what date it was, or which game it was in, maybe I can find something in the logs...

Написао VLKR, 18.03.2022 at 22:14

Bug Report
Expected behavior
I have chosen Master of Stealth as my strategy of this game https://atwar-game.com/games/?link=7517721995

Actual behavior
When I login today the strategy became Lucky Bastard so it screwed up my plan completely

Steps to reproduce the behavior
No special step to reproduce, my strategy was changed by system.

Information:
Browser: Chrome

Browser version: Version 99.0.4844.51

OS: MacOS 11.6.5

Any other relevant information: No

Attachments: N/A

I'm sorry to hear that. It's going to be difficult for me to do anything without any steps to reproduce.... this is the single most important thing for me in any bug report.

I tried the following steps to reproduce on my own:
1) create casual game
2) choose Master of Stealth strategy
3) make a few moves, then leave
4) return to game and check strategy .... still Master of Stealth for me.

I did this twice. 2nd time I made sure that "Lucky Bastard" was my default strategy (under user profile / settings).... still it worked correctly, staying Master of Stealth after I had chosen it.

If there are some different steps to reproduce that I should try, please let me know and I'll try them. Otherwise, for now, I can't reproduce it.

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For what it's worth I did check the logs, and I see where you did select Master of Stealth (note to self -- see log entry at 2022-03-12 05:10:30.8377). I also see that your default strategy is Lucky Bastard. I can't tell which strategy you actually have in the game right now. Unfortunately it won't show me what strategy you have now until the game ends.

Написао Eridans, 19.03.2022 at 10:44

Great Dave !!!
Now it works, I also tried a ruined map, it doesn't always manage to solve it but if you erase all the borders of the nation that has problems and recreate them then it works.

I'll do other tests anyway and if I find any problems I'll let you know

Face that I would like to make a map with the current nations I would have a request that, barring unforeseen events, would only cost you a change of RGB, you could have the inaccessible areas colored blue instead of red so you can do the great lakes of Canada, Russia , etc...

Great, glad it's working for you now

I'll go ahead and mark this bug as "fixed".

Regarding the no-go areas being red, that's another bug I already know about, which will be fixed soon...

Написао jon snow targary, 18.03.2022 at 12:14

Yes bro this

So.... the reason this is happening is because technically that map is broken. It has been broken since 2013.

When it was last saved in the Map Editor (2013-08-28) there must have been an error, because it never finished saving 100%. Specifically, the background never saved. That's why it looks all black like this:



Is this what it looked like when you last played it?

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Btw I've made an update to allow "partially broken" maps like this one to continue being played, so you can try playing it again.... but I can't do anything about the missing background, sorry. We would have to get the original map author to re-upload it.

As far as game mechanics goes.... if the game lets you do it, it's legal. (I mean if it lets you without opening your browser console or hacking code -- that's different, obviously.)

We're not going to make any new rules about walls. I don't want to get into the business of judging whether one end is a few pixels too far, blah blah blah. Rewalls, serbwalls, wallfucks t1 -- so what. That's just the nature of the game.

...And for the record it's pretty clear WD didn't do anything wrong here, I'm just talking in general that we shouldn't have rules about walls to begin with. Then we wouldn't have these stupid arguments.

I'm down depending on the game and availability.

#Justice4Domi