Strange move, why is he helping the turks? Why no diplomatic tactics?

You talk a lot of nonsense, one proof of this is your claim that all our holidays are based on genocide and then you use Chanukah as an example, it's a classic example of looking for information and "facts" that fit your dark opinions against Jews, because Chanukah is a celebration of Jewish rebels that managed to
survive for 8 days in a cave with an oil jug that was supposed to suffice for half a day or a day,
but there was a miracle and the oil jug managed to hold 8 days of fire that burned and made light for those rebels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees#The_revolt

Написао Tik-Tok, 22.10.2019 at 13:46

The word 'goy' itself is described as 'cattle' in the Talmud.

For your information the meaning of the word Goy (gentile) is nation/people, which means the people of israel are also Goyim (gentiles) but the people of Israel have a name that was given to us by God according to the bible, and so we are called the people of Israel, while foreigners are called Goyim because they're not part of the people of Israel.
You take the information you distribute as truth from sites that distribute hate and distortions that match their positions such as this site: https://antizionistleague.com/scrapbook/religion/religious-terminology/goyim/


First of all, this policy document was written more than 23 years ago for that period which is quite different from the current period in a very considerable way.
And just to point out that what is written there is not what happened as it is written.
One of your quotes mentioned the cancellation of the Oslo Accords as one of the ways to help achieve this purported goal, but twenty years later the agreement is still alive and well.

And you forgot to quote the most important part as befits you.

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"The policies set forth in the "Clean Break" report were rejected by Netanyahu. [2] [3]"

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What we see, then, is not a Jewish conspiracy, but a peculiar alliance of evangelical Christians, foreign-policy hard-liners, lobbyists for the Israeli government and neoconservatives, a number of whom happen to be Jewish. But the Jews among them—Perle, Wolfowitz, William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, et al.—are more likely to speak about freedom and democracy than about Halakha (Jewish law). What unites this alliance of convenience is a shared vision of American destiny and the conviction that American force and a tough Israeli line on the Arabs are the best ways to make the United States strong, Israel safe and the world a better place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm#Influence

The reason Israel is unwilling to give the Golan Heights to Syria is because Syria is a country that cannot be trusted after a lot of agreements and other commitments that it systematically violated.
And its alliance with the Iranian regime that vowed to destroy the Jewish state.
In Israel, there is a strong opposition to Netanyahu from the left and from the liberal media, and they will not allow Netanyahu to do part of what you said.
And Syria is currently in chaos because of protests from locals who rose up against the dictatorial rule of the Alawi minority that took control of the country through a coup,
causing disunity and inequality among Syrian civilians. There was a similar uprising in 1983 but at a low level that ended with the slaughter of over tens of thousands of protestors in just 3 days and the displacement of hundreds of thousands into the occupied territories Syria occupied in Lebanon during the Lebanese civil war.

And your "translation" is completely biased and incorrect.
We tried the "land for peace" method that the world and especially the United States championed for their interests so that the Arab world would see them as a fair and loyal ally, and what we got from that method was terror and boldness of extremist factions that demanded more lands and radicalized even more.
The first suicide attack in Israel was after the Oslo agreement 25 years ago in the long runit caused more than two thousand Israeli civilians to die of terror attacks in a decade.
Therefore, there is no choice but to try another method that will help stabilize the security of the State of Israel and it's in the interest of each independent state to strengthen the security of its own state.
And in case you didn't know the financial aid that Israel receives from the United States is as a result of a peace treaty that the United States has introduced to Egypt and Israel, so that Egypt will abandon the USSR and become a US ally.
For this agreement Israel gave the Sinai Peninsula, which was important in terms of strategic survival, to Egypt and in return Egypt and Israel began to receive military aid as part of the agreement



Another thing Israel had no part in Saddam's execution. Saddam was convicted and sentenced to death by Iraqi judges for crimes against humanity he committed against the Iraqi people,
such as bombing Iraqi Kurds with chemical bombs and the murder of over a hundred of innocents Iraqis for their sectarian affiliation due to assassination attempt and many other crimes.
Saddam also had an open business with the United States that was already since the Gulf War.
The reason that Saddam constituted an important strategic threat for Israel is because he threatened Israel ever since he became a dictator to distract the public from the difficulties in Iraq,
and for more than a year starting in 2002 threatened to bomb Israel as he did in the Gulf War with chemical weapons, because the US wanted to attack Iraq, and because of these threats, every Israeli citizen was forced to go everywhere with a gas mask,
and that includes children who went with a gas mask to school for almost a year.
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/latest-news/article24434728.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/01/israel
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1538184/Saddams-crimes-against-humanity.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein%27s_Iraq


We have justifiable reasons for our positions regarding the territories we conquered in wars we had no choice in because of the uncontrollable incitement by the Arab side against the Jewish people living in Israel.
We don't want to be in a situation where we will again be in extreme danger with the territory we had before the Six Day War, which is an area that is almost impossible to protect.
And world powers and ex world powers like the United Kingdom are trying to achieve political self-sufficiency and position themselves as peacemakers and as vital states and all at the expense of the Jewish people living in Israel, and you think the Israelis are exploiting the same powers. It's just ridiculous.


You mentioned that Netanyahu wants to stop the financial aid from the US. It isn't because of our desire to expand as a country, but because this financial aid is limiting our hand,
and doesn't allow us to act as a 100 percent sovereign state.
USA's aid is 3 billion dollars a year and Israel's annual income is over 300 billion dollars. This aid burdens our foreign policy and prevents us from doing things that are vital to Israel's interests.
An example of this is one of Israel's attempts to build a military aircraft, in the 80s, whose cost was about 70% less than the F16, which, following pressure from the United States,
completely stopped the project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi#Controversy_and_cancellation
The amount of money we receive doesn't justify this binding we are experiencing but out of respect for the United States and the agreements, our government dosen't want to destroy the status quo.


Also Israel didn't ask the United States or any other country to attack Syria.
Israel found that Syria was trying to produce nuclear weapons to threaten Israel and Israel passed this information on to the US and intended to bomb the reactor itself and of course the US opposed it,
as they opposed the bombing of Iraqi nuclear reactor in the 1980s that Saddam built to protect his regime and also to threaten Israel. But Israel attacked it nonetheless as it did in Iraq.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Outside_the_Box - Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera - Iraq

Написао Tik-Tok, 22.10.2019 at 13:46

Because, again, if Israel intervened, the entire coalition with arab support would fall apart. Because they hate Israel and what it does. So why should we keep supporting you if it hurts our interests with them

They don't hate us because of what we supposedly do because we're not at the same level in atrocities we supposedly commit compared to the atrocities they commit to themselves.
Their hatred stems from the assumption that we are the ultimate enemy of Islam as indicated in the Qur'an.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/islamic-scholar-invokes-quran-to-justify-killing-jews-kill-the-polytheists-wherever-you-may-find-them
https://barenakedislam.com/2014/11/07/kill-the-jews-wherever-you-find-them-the-common-goal-of-nazis-and-islamonazis-everywhere/

Написао Tik-Tok, 22.10.2019 at 13:46

Americans and Brits have been dying for your 'Clean Break' policy for decades. Read the above tests clearly showing this was a Zionist policy designed by Jewish American and Israeli politicians.

It's funny that you say the British are dying for Israel when this policy was abolished even before it was implemented.
If anything, it was the Isrealis who died for Britain in the war against Egypt in 1956 when Egypt decided to take over the Suez Canal from Britain, which generated very good income for Britain. They used Israel, which was already an enemy of Egypt, so that Britain could continue to control the Suez Canal. After this war Britain lost its status as a world power. And rightly so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#Frustration_of_British_aims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#Canal_nationalization
Just to stress again, there was not a single moment in history that the United States fought for Israel.
All of the United States wars were for it's own good. The financial aid we receive is part of a peace agreement designed to strengthen the United States vis-a-vis the Soviet Union in the Middle East,
and we pledged to return the area that was very significant to our security for the United States, which in return agreed to assist us with financial aid, aimed only at the military.
No American soldier fights in the Middle East or anywhere else for the integrity of the State of Israel.

You have no idea how much Israeli intelligence is helping the West especially to the United States and Europe in particular.
Our intelligence services have delivered a lot of warnings to intelligence services around the world to prevent devastating attacks on their land that have saved many lives.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/09/netanyahu-israel-helped-stop-terror-attacks-planes-europe/
https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/israel-intelligence-cold-war/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-43149722


And how can you support Iran when Iran deceived the United States from its earliest days, abducted dozens of American citizens, including diplomats,
who pushed the United States to impose sanctions on Iran in the first place, right after the Islamic regime took control of Iran.
And its attempt to undermine America's grip on the Middle East by supporting the rebels during the Iraq War, in Iraq and in Afghanistan, by providing impromptu bombs such as IEDs, variety of weapons, and accurate location of American troops.
In addition, they are trying to produce nuclear capability so that they can threaten the world as North Korea allows itself, and do whatever they can, which is likely to conflict with the interests of the United States in the Middle East
because Iran is trying to achieve hegemony in the Middle East and that includes control over the Middle East.
And they are rooting in their civilians that the US is the Great Devil to prepare their civilians for an all-out war against the United States when the time comes.
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/05/5-jun-16-world-view-irans-khomeini-fooled-jimmy-carter-great-islamic-revolution/
https://www.newsweek.com/iran-us-iraq-war-troops-killed-efps-shiite-militias-1385990 "Iran was responsible for the deaths of at least 608 American troops in Iraq between 2003 and 2011,
according to a newly revised casualty estimate produced by the Pentagon."
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/iran_admits_it_lied_to_obamas_iran_deal_interlocutors.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

Написао Tik-Tok, 22.10.2019 at 13:46

The constant blood libel projected onto Europeans in ficticous pograms and a refusal to self-reflect on why such actions did or didn't occur, over THOUSANDS of years, shows you have little intention of diplomacy or compromise. And while the evidence of Zionist consolidation of our institutions is insurmountable, you play the innocent lamb who could do no wrong and has no ill will. This fundamental hypocrisy, dishonest and malice is at the heart of this.

The Jewish people are a very critical people towards themselves. We were a scapegoat of rulers who couldn't bring to the table what they promised, or who have encountered difficulties and used the "foreign" Jews as scapegoats. And this has been the case for thousands of years. There were also religious reasons that led to hatred that has become rooted in the European world. And, in addition, Jews who succeeded in life made non Jews feel inferior to those Jews they considered inferior because they thought and still consider Jews foreign, even though European Jews have had European roots for more than 2000 years.



Regarding the Golan Heights oil and gas pipeline Israel is planning to build to deliver gas to Europe they were discovered only in the last 10 years.
The gas was discovered a little less than 10 years ago next to Haifa's shore and the oil in the Golan was discovered only 4 years ago.
While Iran's sanctions have been around for almost 40 years, the Golan has been under Israeli control for over 40 years.
And the Israeli soldiers go through a lot of scrutiny by our military and also by our media and the international media which is usually biased against us,
and sometimes uses fabricated shots and stories, like the story you just told. Israel is not like you think it is.

You are in short looking for "facts" that suit you as I said.

What is wrong with bombing kurds

press S for western puppets aka YPG and CIA's 250+ million invesment