Are you happy with the amount of cities in the game?

Obviously some regions have more cities and some less, so please assess the general situation in the game.

Some regions are kinda empty, such as the amazon or north africa. Obviously you can't magically manifest cities there, but if there are any extra cities in those locations that aren't represented on the map, that'd be nice. I'm in a game right now where the only reason I'm losing is cuz once I hit northern south america, I had no cities capable of reinforcing my army against north america, felt bad Oh, and canada too. Filling up the empty areas would be nice, if possible.

One example that comes to mind is north France and Spain, they has no port in the north which is a huge bonus for defending England. I actually think this is a good thing. Just posting how a small addition/change can have a big impact.

Yes, but, for example, I hate Europe with +100 cites option "on"
Too crowded

Regions like europe or SE asia are just fine how they are, in some other regions there could be more cities, for example the amazonas or egypt just like the chad

The South America with 100 more cities don't change a lot.
Maybe you can add more cities in Brazil, like Rio Branco (Acre state), Boa Vista (Roraima state, close to Venezuela) in Amazonas; Cuiabá (Mato Grosso state) in Mato Grosso; Florianópolis (Santa Catarina state) in Brazil: South; And i feel that Northeast needs a city closer to Amazonas, like Teresina (Piauí state) or São Luís (Maranhão state); In the Southeast there is Vitória (Espirito Santo state, maybe with the extra cities options on...)

All of these cities that i have said are capitals of those States (i swear that you know how the Brazilian political map is organizated)
Well, there was a lot of cities in Brazil that you can put in the game . Ah, Argentina with 100 more cities is a kind of bad organizated too.

I Hate Europe with 100 more cities options On too :S

+100 cities is tough on small maps as people are saying due to crowding, but it is great on Eurasia + africa and whole world. I have found a lot of new players are unaware of this option, and so when they start a game on the big maps it is rarely turned on.

I would support adding +100 cities as a default "on" on the larger maps - if this is possible

I agree with both the ideas of making the +100 cities on big maps as default, as well as adding various cities to south america. Especially the center around the amazons is dreadfully empty and god help you if you have to fight there, you can't reinforce it to save your life. And it's not like there aren't any cities there or anything, there may not be tons and tons, but I'm sure there are some.

Also, I don't get why people are saying Europe is too crowded with +100 cities, it seems just right to me. The only part of it I could consider too crowded is that little area to the east of italy that has like 7 capital cities right next to eachother. Everywhere else seems just fine to me.

Hey, i have made two example maps to show some cities that can be add in the game in South América.

Take a look :
Img1

Well, in the firt map, i have imagined all these cities in the Default. Only São Luís would appear with the extra cities option on.

Img2

Now, In the second Map, i have imagined all these Cities appearing with the extra cities options on. Only Cuiabá would be on the Default.

What do you think about this ?

The "Amazonas" section of Brazil can be split into two, also, mantaining the cities that Gabira has proposed.

I don't think the amazonas needs to be split even if all those cities were added. Keep in mind, it's not the size of the region, I mean just look at russia-far east. What determines whether or not a region should be split is how many cities it has, even with all those cities that region only has 6 cities, MANY regions have that many or more. I really love those city placements, would help make the amazonas area easier to fight in that's for sure.

No more cities in europe.

and some way to turn africa and america more atractive

Russia is underpowerd, theres no way, russia could win against japan, china or half europe

Most of Eastern Russia IS underpowered....But Western Russia can still hold it's own

I think we need a way to have cities in the underpopulated regions of the game(e.g. Macedonia) without having to turn on the 100 extra cities option. It gets annoying not being able to take these territories but it isnt worth it to have to manage the 100 extra cities. Also, a lot of times when i play with my friends i document the game by screen-capping the full map every turn. It just looks silly when 70 turns into the game Canada:Northwest territories, a territory that takes up a huge amount of space, is still the neutral color. I don't know if it would be better to make this a separate option or just permanently have a capital for every country when 100 extra cities isn't turned on.
Thanks.

I think that you should add some citys were there is irr-traversable areas(like the mackinac bridge in great lakes region) so that we can get to out beloved bases faster...or we can steal or your basez . An example would be like, at the straits of mackinac between the upper and lower penninsulas of michugan, add a city called mackinac, just like how istanbul is for turkey. This could go with anywere in the world were a bridge realy is.

On a side note, Vladivostok is one of the main ports of the Russian navy, but has 1 reinforcement. Just pointing this out, because Russia definitely needs a boost to both its reinforcements and its income (I don't believe either accurately represents the Russian situation).

I really enjoy the relatively realistic ratios of cities to their real world counterparts.
I think if more cities are added they should be added where there are more cities: China, India... Not remote parts of the Sahara or Amazon. Or if cities are added to those places then the other cities should be scaled up to represent the relative populations.

Написао Hawk, 10.02.2011 at 21:28

On a side note, Vladivostok is one of the main ports of the Russian navy, but has 1 reinforcement. Just pointing this out, because Russia definitely needs a boost to both its reinforcements and its income (I don't believe either accurately represents the Russian situation).

It's all about population. Vladivostok doesn't have much of it.

It has less than a million people, but a large military force.
Maybe this is an overarching issue with city reinforcements- they don't represent actual military values, but represent the population of the city.
Perhaps this could be changed in beta, to more accurately represent actual military strength of individual cities?

Well a problem with that is many nations at the moment are not really in 'war mode'.

So for instance the EU has a great capacity for building military but simply does not have the need to do so at the moment.
Mean while some nations like North Korea are the opposite, having a much bigger military strength than they really should have.

If you base it on the currant military strength lots of weird things would start to happen and it would also be impossible to get accurate information. I'm sure allot of Russia's boats for instance are not going to be serviceable and are rusting away. Allot of nations lie about what they have, for a good reason.
Trying to guess the military capabilities of nations like Germany and Japan in war time would be impossible.

I do agree the currect situation can feel a bit arbitrary and counter intuitive but I would like to have the admins adjust this by what they think would work best for the over all game experiance and what seems 'right' to them rather than only by statistics.
In the end its a question of common sense.



Maybe some parts of the world should have a boost for certain units. So EU +USA would have more hightech, high cost units and Africa would get a large boost to numbers of militia it can make and so on...

Написао n00less cluebie, 03.02.2011 at 09:22

Most of Eastern Russia IS underpowered....But Western Russia can still hold it's own

A unified China can take out all of Europe.

Only really if they have India as well.

China needs to be sorted out. Don't know how, but it does.

The larger nations need to be made up of smaller regions, especially south America, most of heavily populated Asia (including Western Russia), North America and Australia. Obviously follow national borders, but I would say don't be afraid to break up nations like Argentina, Russia, China, India, Mexico, the USA a bit more.

Написао Britainball, 04.04.2011 at 12:07

The larger nations need to be made up of smaller regions, especially south America, most of heavily populated Asia (including Western Russia), North America and Australia. Obviously follow national borders, but I would say don't be afraid to break up nations like Argentina, Russia, China, India, Mexico, the USA a bit more.

They have already done exactly this with The US, Brazil, Russia, and china. The admins have said they like the current state.

How about adding more cities in west china (tibet, xinjiang) it's unpopular place for battles because lack of cities there

Написао Gigglin, 04.04.2011 at 15:28

Написао Britainball, 04.04.2011 at 12:07

The larger nations need to be made up of smaller regions, especially south America, most of heavily populated Asia (including Western Russia), North America and Australia. Obviously follow national borders, but I would say don't be afraid to break up nations like Argentina, Russia, China, India, Mexico, the USA a bit more.

They have already done exactly this with The US, Brazil, Russia, and china. The admins have said they like the current state.

I'd like to point out in a friendly way that admins & creators should be listening to the desires of the players. They clearly don't have to, but they should be catering to our wants.

Написао VozdKaradjordje, 04.04.2011 at 16:28

How about adding more cities in west china (tibet, xinjiang) it's unpopular place for battles because lack of cities there

Second!
Then it wouldn't be such a pain to move troops from China to Europe, for example.
But you have to consider that those cities would make China even more powerful (and many people believe, that it is already quite mighty)
Those cities would give you the possibility to quickly advance into the "Stan-Countries" and maybe India. Together with the coastal cities, providing the possibility to subjugate Asia quickly, it would make those regions just overpowered, as long as you are not facing serious resistance in the early game.
So I like the idea, but then there has to be some kind of balance, for example lowering the reinforcements of the coastal Chinese cities and keeping the funds constant. It would definitely make Eurasia games more interesting for a China-man, but it has to be balanced.

Написао Gabira, 28.01.2011 at 12:54

Hey, i have made two example maps to show some cities that can be add in the game in South América.

Take a look :
Img1

Well, in the firt map, i have imagined all these cities in the Default. Only São Luís would appear with the extra cities option on.

Img2

Now, In the second Map, i have imagined all these Cities appearing with the extra cities options on. Only Cuiabá would be on the Default.

What do you think about this ?

I saw those maps just now and I totally agree with them. Also, for those who don't know, Brazilian amazonian is far from being a desert area or such.