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29.03.2014 - 06:15
Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 05:12

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tldr
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29.03.2014 - 06:26
Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 04:16

I'm a devout Christian mate.


You are a devout [censored]
Watch this short vid to find out what you really are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsj1UWol7l8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu7AQTs_y5A
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29.03.2014 - 06:45
Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 04:16

I'm a devout Christian mate.


Actually no, forget about that. Watch this one instead. You'll love it. Provided you understand spoken english.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKGtcVoBhBQ
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29.03.2014 - 07:01
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Написао Unleashed, 29.03.2014 at 04:36

Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 01:02

You provided no evidence but I simply used logic. And please prove how flying pony's are real, it's hardly the same as believing in God actually.


What the fuck did I just read. Please shoot me. This is obviously a waste of time. I'm out of this thread I refuse to believe someone is this retarded. I almost became this cat




So have fun retarding, religious retards.
Is this like the 12th AH?
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29.03.2014 - 07:03
Написао Unleashed, 29.03.2014 at 06:15

Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 05:12

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tldr

Perhaps that is for the best.
Be well.
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29.03.2014 - 07:16
Написао Unleashed, 29.03.2014 at 04:26

Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 04:16

I'm a devout Christian mate.


No you are not. You pretend to be one. Have you read the bible? Do you practice what's written in there everyday? Every single thing? I doubt it. You are not a christian, and you will never go to heaven.

It is my understanding of Jesusism that forgiveness is a core tenet, and that The Supreme Deity tolerates disobedience is a common theme. Do you have a different understanding?

I know judgement of others is second-nature to you, but, from a purely technical standpoint, would it be a fair statement that one who expresses an utter lack of familiarity with the work of literature you mention might not be an appropriate judge of another's fitness for entry to Paradise?

Case in Point: On the Origin of the Species is another work of literature dealing with a key concept (hint: it's in the title) which you claimed knowledge of, but alas, were unable to demonstrate.
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29.03.2014 - 07:20
Написао Unleashed, 29.03.2014 at 06:45

Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 04:16

I'm a devout Christian mate.


Actually no, forget about that. Watch this one instead. You'll love it. Provided you understand spoken english.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKGtcVoBhBQ

The funnest part?
Do you know what Dawkin's does for a living, when he's not involved in the intellectual equivalent of clubbing baby seals or writing popular literature?
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29.03.2014 - 08:51
Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 07:16

It is my understanding of Jesusism that forgiveness is a core tenet, and that The Supreme Deity tolerates disobedience is a common theme. Do you have a different understanding?

I know judgement of others is second-nature to you, but, from a purely technical standpoint, would it be a fair statement that one who expresses an utter lack of familiarity with the work of literature you mention might not be an appropriate judge of another's fitness for entry to Paradise?

Case in Point: On the Origin of the Species is another work of literature dealing with a key concept (hint: it's in the title) which you claimed knowledge of, but alas, were unable to demonstrate.


Forgiveness and turning the other cheek were made into a moral virtue by the ruling classes, but it only applied when they did something to the poor peasant. That's when they should forgive. When the poor bastard did something to upset the establishment, that's when forgiveness doesn't apply anymore, and death or punishment came in. Fuck forgiveness. An eye for an eye.

You keep talking about paradise? Have you lost your fucking mind? The more you post, the more you give yourself away.
I realized one thing, I've been sitting here trying to reason with crazy people. A mistake which I shall not repeat.
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29.03.2014 - 13:01
Religious fundamentalist: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
Unleashed: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
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29.03.2014 - 13:35
Написао Grimm, 29.03.2014 at 13:01

Religious fundamentalist: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
Unleashed: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."


The difference is that I really do hold some truths. And I don't threaten people with eternal, fuel-firing hell. Nobody has the complete truth.

PS: And now, time has come for religious people to trip over my post count.
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29.03.2014 - 14:31
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Написао Grimm, 29.03.2014 at 13:01

Religious fundamentalist: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
Unleashed: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
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29.03.2014 - 16:42
Написао Unleashed, 29.03.2014 at 08:51

Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 07:16

It is my understanding of Jesusism that forgiveness is a core tenet, and that The Supreme Deity tolerates disobedience is a common theme. Do you have a different understanding?

I know judgement of others is second-nature to you, but, from a purely technical standpoint, would it be a fair statement that one who expresses an utter lack of familiarity with the work of literature you mention might not be an appropriate judge of another's fitness for entry to Paradise?

Case in Point: On the Origin of the Species is another work of literature dealing with a key concept (hint: it's in the title) which you claimed knowledge of, but alas, were unable to demonstrate.


Forgiveness and turning the other cheek were made into a moral virtue by the ruling classes, but it only applied when they did something to the poor peasant. That's when they should forgive. When the poor bastard did something to upset the establishment, that's when forgiveness doesn't apply anymore, and death or punishment came in. Fuck forgiveness. An eye for an eye.

You keep talking about paradise? Have you lost your fucking mind? The more you post, the more you give yourself away.
I realized one thing, I've been sitting here trying to reason with crazy people. A mistake which I shall not repeat.

- I am unfamiliar with multiple references, by me, to 'Paradise' except in replies to your diatribes on Islam. I did use the word as a synonym for 'Heaven', much as I used the word 'Jesusism' as a synonym for Christianity, in the example above. Along with your powers to judge other people's fitness for their religion, do you have a theory of mental health associating synonym usage with diminshed capacity?

In fact, (telling) I don't bring up religion independently, only as a reply to your religiously-intolerant spewings.

- I wasn't talking about society, or power-politics, or class warfare, I was talking about a work of literature, your stated expertise with it, and your apparent lack of knowledge of it. That being said ...
- A moral virtue would be construed by most to be both 'moral' and 'virtuous'. Dawkins would argue forgiveness isn't merely a moral virtue (but it might be that also), but a survival trait whose expression pre-dates Abrahamic times. One replaces 'killing your enemy' with 'forgiving your enemy' and possibly 'cooperating with your former enemy'. More forgiveness = more people. And natural selection tends to perpetuate traits that provide survival value. Perhaps you have heard of Dawkins? You provided a link to an excerpt of him.
- I wonder what, exactly, I am 'giving away', besides elementary lessons in civics, history, science, and that I find ignorance and intolerance, of any stripe, to be excreble.

Do you dispute the ignorance of science, civics, critical thinking and world religion you've most vociferously displayed?
Do you dispute your lack of tolerance with those who hold religious views?

If not, would it be reasonable to conclude that you are 'ignorant' and 'religiously intolerant'?
You are absolutely entitled to wallow in your ignorance and stew in your intolerance. When you serve your goulash of stupidity and hate here, I am certainly entitled to observe it, identify it, and refute it.
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29.03.2014 - 16:45
Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 14:31

Написао Grimm, 29.03.2014 at 13:01

Religious fundamentalist: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
Unleashed: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."

Exactly.
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29.03.2014 - 20:40
Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 16:42



Do you dispute the ignorance of science, civics, critical thinking and world religion you've most vociferously displayed?



yeah i do...dispute the ignorance of science.You are taking things to far and im gonna have to reply.You talk with great disrespect about the whole sphere of science,biology,physics and etc yet you forget the only reason we living on this world as it is, is because of them.The only reason you write this thread is cause of them.

Many things you write are true and you sound like a reasonable educated kid,but some things you say make you look ignorant and stupid sorry..By calling biologists and scientists ignorant and by putting religion to par with science, you insult not only yourself and your inteligence but all of the human race.
more tommorow cause its late
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29.03.2014 - 23:46
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Написао Unleashed, 28.03.2014 at 18:40

Написао zombieyeti, 28.03.2014 at 18:22

From the perspective of those who believe God created species as they are today, the biologists are wrong.


From my perspective, those who believe such things are retards and not worth having any discussion with whatsoever. I piss on religious people's irrational perspectives, and on the perspectives of those who bring such crap to my attention.
Same could be done to your irrational beliefs
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30.03.2014 - 02:27
Написао Khal.eesi, 29.03.2014 at 20:40

Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 16:42



Do you dispute the ignorance of science, civics, critical thinking and world religion you've most vociferously displayed?



yeah i do...dispute the ignorance of science.You are taking things to far and im gonna have to reply.You talk with great disrespect about the whole sphere of science,biology,physics and etc yet you forget the only reason we living on this world as it is, is because of them.The only reason you write this thread is cause of them.

Many things you write are true and you sound like a reasonable educated kid,but some things you say make you look ignorant and stupid sorry..By calling biologists and scientists ignorant and by putting religion to par with science, you insult not only yourself and your inteligence but all of the human race.
more tommorow cause its late


You are absolutely wrong to claim that I disrespect science.
I have nothing but respect for the scientific method, critical thinking, and logical reasoning.

Have I made any claims about science, critical thinking, and logical reasoning that you know to be wrong?

I do not put religion on par with science, they are completely different domains of human knowledge.

What you quoted above was addressed to Unleashed. If you read it carefully, *clearly* I am asking if he (Unleashed) still thinks he can beat people over the head with science, logic, and his knowledge of religion, when he doesn't seem to know the basics of evolution, critical thinking and Christianity.

All of this being said, if you misjudged me, no harm done. An innocent mistake made by two sincere people.

An explanation: I am sometimes very academic in my writing style, and should be more mindful of the international audience in AW forums. I often reply to intolerance with sarcasm, and sarcasm may complicate the meaning of the message.
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I hope you had a good evening.

Edit: I did a re-read. If I wasn't clear: I <3 science and reason. I stand up to intolerance of all forms, including those who are intolerant of people who hold religious beliefs *just because* they hold these beliefs.
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30.03.2014 - 02:34
Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 23:46

Написао Unleashed, 28.03.2014 at 18:40

Написао zombieyeti, 28.03.2014 at 18:22

From the perspective of those who believe God created species as they are today, the biologists are wrong.


From my perspective, those who believe such things are retards and not worth having any discussion with whatsoever. I piss on religious people's irrational perspectives, and on the perspectives of those who bring such crap to my attention.
Same could be done to your irrational beliefs

Man, again, what it takes me dozens of words to say, you sum up in a sentence.
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30.03.2014 - 02:55
Написао Goblin, 29.03.2014 at 13:09

Написао Grimm, 29.03.2014 at 13:01

Religious fundamentalist: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."
Unleashed: "I have the truth. All who disagree with me are ignorant/hopeless/lost."


Religious fundamentalist: "we dont have evidence that God exists, but you should believe us"
Unleashed: "i dont have the evidence God doesnt exist, but you should believe me ...you retards!"

Religious fundamentalist: Fun.
Unleashed: Un.
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30.03.2014 - 05:26
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Написао zombieyeti, 30.03.2014 at 02:34

Написао Guest, 29.03.2014 at 23:46

Написао Unleashed, 28.03.2014 at 18:40

Написао zombieyeti, 28.03.2014 at 18:22

From the perspective of those who believe God created species as they are today, the biologists are wrong.


From my perspective, those who believe such things are retards and not worth having any discussion with whatsoever. I piss on religious people's irrational perspectives, and on the perspectives of those who bring such crap to my attention.
Same could be done to your irrational beliefs

Man, again, what it takes me dozens of words to say, you sum up in a sentence.
Welcome.
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30.03.2014 - 06:45
Написао zombieyeti, 30.03.2014 at 02:27

I have nothing but respect for the scientific method, critical thinking, and logical reasoning.

Yet you secretly hope to get to heaven. "It might not be true, but what if it is, well, just in case, I will not dismiss or criticize it cause who knows, maybe god is watching. Let me say how both science and religion are valid, this way I please everyone and I have a reserved spot in heaven "
Coward. There is no difference between you and a religious retard.

Написао Khal.eesi, 29.03.2014 at 20:40

Many things you write are true and you sound like a reasonable educated kid,but some things you say make you look ignorant and stupid sorry..By calling biologists and scientists ignorant and by putting religion to par with science, you insult not only yourself and your inteligence but all of the human race.

Arguing with religious people is a waste of time. It's like arguing with a retarded kid, you can't make him comprehend no matter how hard you try or even when all the evidence is around him. That being said, it's fun to insult and inconvenience the irrational.

Написао zombieyeti, 30.03.2014 at 02:55

Religious fundamentalist: Fun.
Unleashed: Un.


You must have brain damage. I suspected it all along. Pray to god, maybe he will save you.
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30.03.2014 - 06:55
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Arguing with Unleashed is a waste of time. It's like trying to argue with a stupid guy, he just ignores arguments and is a hypocrite no matter how hard you try. That being said, it's fun to see him insult you.
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30.03.2014 - 07:01
Написао Guest, 30.03.2014 at 06:55

Arguing with Unleashed is a waste of time. It's like trying to argue with a stupid guy, he just ignores arguments and is a hypocrite no matter how hard you try. That being said, it's fun to see him insult you.


You are religious(christian). You have no arguments, just fairy tales, you idiotic christian boy.

All you have is numbers, and you can gang up on others with your ignorance and corner them. But you're doing that to someone who knows the truth, and truth to religion is like sunlight to the vampire.
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30.03.2014 - 07:29
Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 16:42

Do you dispute your lack of tolerance with those who hold religious views?


What is the sense in having tolerance for something that is intolerant? It's like meeting the guy who just robbed you two days ago, and giving him $20 extra bucks of your own accord.

Your thinking fails on so many levels. Don't flatter yourself, I didn't read everything you wrote, I have low tolerance for stupid bullshit. Hence the low tolerance for religion

Even though Blackshark is less knowledgeable than you, I'd rather argue with him. At least he admits to being a christian, unlike you, you hiding coward. You talk about a bunch of nonsense about how you explained evolution to me in this thread LOLOL. You might want me to believe you're greater than Dawkins himself.

It's a disgrace chatting with you. And I think I will choose to not be engaged is disgraceful situations anymore.
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30.03.2014 - 07:52
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Написао Unleashed, 30.03.2014 at 07:01

Написао Guest, 30.03.2014 at 06:55

Arguing with Unleashed is a waste of time. It's like trying to argue with a stupid guy, he just ignores arguments and is a hypocrite no matter how hard you try. That being said, it's fun to see him insult you.


You are religious(christian). You have no arguments, just fairy tales, you idiotic christian boy.

All you have is numbers, and you can gang up on others with your ignorance and corner them. But you're doing that to someone who knows the truth, and truth to religion is like sunlight to the vampire.
The hypocrisy level is OVER 9000!!!
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30.03.2014 - 13:58
Написао Unleashed, 30.03.2014 at 07:29

Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 16:42

Do you dispute your lack of tolerance with those who hold religious views?


What is the sense in having tolerance for something that is intolerant? It's like meeting the guy who just robbed you two days ago, and giving him $20 extra bucks of your own accord.

Your thinking fails on so many levels. Don't flatter yourself, I didn't read everything you wrote, I have low tolerance for stupid bullshit. Hence the low tolerance for religion

Even though Blackshark is less knowledgeable than you, I'd rather argue with him. At least he admits to being a christian, unlike you, you hiding coward. You talk about a bunch of nonsense about how you explained evolution to me in this thread LOLOL. You might want me to believe you're greater than Dawkins himself.

It's a disgrace chatting with you. And I think I will choose to not be engaged is disgraceful situations anymore.

- I have been called racist things for standing up against racial intolerance. These people have accused me, variously, of being Black or Asian, or Turkish, of course, not in these polite words. Once, in AW I was accused of being Black and Turkish, simultaneously. I didn't deny or claim I was Black, or Turkish, or Asian at those times.

- I have been called homosexual for standing up to homophobes against this intolerance. Those people have accused me of being homosexual. I didn't deny or claim I was homosexual.

- I have been called a woman for standing up to woman-bashing. I didn't deny or claim I was a woman.

- Now, for standing up against religious intolerance, I have been called "Christian". I neither claim or deny being religious at all.

In all of these cases, I remained mute, because these racist, homophobic, misogynistic, hateful people would have dismissed my arguments outright. Such rejection is known as an ad hominem fallacious reasoning - as if being any of those things makes my propositions any less valid, or if being none of these things would make my arguments more valid.

Since there is absolutely no difference between these racist, homophobic, misogynistic people, and you, I treat you no differently. I can't change your mind, or the minds of other bigots. I don't try.
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30.03.2014 - 14:53
Написао Unleashed, 30.03.2014 at 07:29

Написао zombieyeti, 29.03.2014 at 16:42

Do you dispute your lack of tolerance with those who hold religious views?


What is the sense in having tolerance for something that is intolerant? It's like meeting the guy who just robbed you two days ago, and giving him $20 extra bucks of your own accord.

Your thinking fails on so many levels. Don't flatter yourself, I didn't read everything you wrote, I have low tolerance for stupid bullshit. Hence the low tolerance for religion

Even though Blackshark is less knowledgeable than you, I'd rather argue with him. At least he admits to being a christian, unlike you, you hiding coward. You talk about a bunch of nonsense about how you explained evolution to me in this thread LOLOL. You might want me to believe you're greater than Dawkins himself.

It's a disgrace chatting with you. And I think I will choose to not be engaged is disgraceful situations anymore.

Clarification: I didn't explain evolution to you. I *tried* to explain an essential, elementary aspect of species origin of which you were apparently unaware.

I admire Dawkins. There are many biologists. There are a few who also write popular literature. None have been in the public eye, like Dawkins, in his passionate defenses of science, reason and atheism.

Clearly you're an atheist, but have totally missed out on the realms of 'science' and 'reason'.

Now, please do your research. When does Dawkins ever make a general claim that god/gods don't exist?
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30.03.2014 - 16:01
Who gives a shit, into the gulag with the degenerates
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30.03.2014 - 16:04
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Написао Goblin, 30.03.2014 at 15:43

Unleashed has 666 posts D: ...that explains alot.
BURN HIM! HE IS ILLUMATI REPTILLIAN DEMON!
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31.03.2014 - 01:09
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Написао Goblin, 30.03.2014 at 16:19

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Написао Goblin, 30.03.2014 at 15:43

Unleashed has 666 posts D: ...that explains alot.
BURN HIM! HE IS ILLUMATI REPTILLIAN DEMON!


I got 3 notifications of you quoting me ahhhhhh D: ...forgive us your infernal majesty!!!!
Oh right, I posted 3 times at once. Lol
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31.03.2014 - 05:24
Написао Guest, 30.03.2014 at 16:04

Написао Goblin, 30.03.2014 at 15:43

Unleashed has 666 posts D: ...that explains alot.
BURN HIM! HE IS ILLUMATI REPTILLIAN DEMON!


It was even funnier when tito called me a satanist. Without even knowing the meaning of the word. LOL

The superstition of religious people is so funny. Intelligent christian is an oxymoron. Solving equations doesn't make you intelligent if you drool from the mouth everytime you are challenged to think about this stuff. You are exactly what governments want: intelligent enough to do your job, and stupid enough not to question them.
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