Something your brain will melt over if you think about it too much

He's referring to his own earlier post, Indo.

Написао Aristosseur, 03.06.2011 at 07:29

Написао Vespre, 03.06.2011 at 06:54

4/0
4 peaches divided among 0 people, how many peaches does each person have?





OH, and:

Написао Garde, 02.06.2011 at 21:33

Your basicaly implying for me to ask my teacher to tell me something he probably doesn't even know, as how you worded it makes absolutely no sense to my american way of mathematics.

I lost, hard.

They get infinite peaches
Teachers teaching maths and not knowing limits, either Gardevoir goes to a shit school or american education is terrible.

Either: A. Explain what you mean by limits or B. Fuck off

Grow up, learn math

As far as I am concerned it's 0.

Написао Garde, 03.06.2011 at 14:40

Написао Aristosseur, 03.06.2011 at 07:29

Написао Vespre, 03.06.2011 at 06:54

4/0
4 peaches divided among 0 people, how many peaches does each person have?





OH, and:

Написао Garde, 02.06.2011 at 21:33

Your basicaly implying for me to ask my teacher to tell me something he probably doesn't even know, as how you worded it makes absolutely no sense to my american way of mathematics.

I lost, hard.

They get infinite peaches
Teachers teaching maths and not knowing limits, either Gardevoir goes to a shit school or american education is terrible.

Either: A. Explain what you mean by limits or B. Fuck off

They did not put undefined as one of the answers... It is generally better to leave it as undefined, not zero.

Aristosseur is right, learn more about math before you claim what is right and wrong. Do not ask us to explain it. If you do not understand, it is your problem for your lack of understanding of math and research:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit_of_a_function>
Go to "Definition." It is the first few sentences under the heading. Hope that helps you somewhat.

Since I cannot explain this better myself concerning infinity, this kind person settles the question: <http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/28940/why-is-infinity-multiplied-by-zero-not-an-easy-zero-answer>. It is the second post by Alex. NOT THE FIRST POST.

The problem with claiming it is 0 is that you did not give concrete definition for infinity.
If you say infinity is a real number, then the argument of adding zeroes forever is zero will technically work.
Let I be infinity.
<I*0=0+0+0...+0=0>.
However, in the field of mathematics, infinity is not a number, even though it is often treated as one (by people not well educated in math). Real numbers are pi, 0.32, 65/3, 2^(0.5), -684357, and so on. Yes we know infinity is a really big number, but infinity does not mean putting "..." in an equation and it will be satisfactory. You cannot treat infinity like a natural number put however many zeroes into "..." that is necessary.

"!=" means "not equal." If you can understand <2b!=2+b> or <1-3*2!=4> when you first started algebra, it is the same idea with infinity now. You cannot base things off of your intuition and say it is right. Any sensible math student will know better than to trust their intuition and false logic. If in doubt, look it up.

Take imaginary numbers for example:
We know that:
4^(0.5)*9^(0.5)
(4*9)^(0.5)
36^(0.5)
6
However, to a beginner in algebra, it is very tempting to treat <-4^(0.5)*-9^(0.5)> in the same way as <4^(0.5)*9^(0.5)>:
-4^(0.5)*-9^(0.5)
(-4*-9)^(0.5)
36^(0.5)
6
In fact, <-4^(0.5)*-9^(0.5)!=(-4*-9)^(0.5)> because imaginary numbers are not real numbers, you do not treat them the same. What applies to real numbers do not apply to imaginary numbers. Here is the correct way:
-4^(0.5)*-9^(0.5)
(2*i)(3*i)
6*i^(2)
6*-1
-6
The idea behind this example is to show that intuition will lead you to nowhere in math, and to also show that since infinity is not even a well defined number in mathematics, let alone imaginary, you cannot just apply the same rules for real numbers to an idea such as infinity.

So far that I know, from Wikipedia, measure theory is the only one that recognizes <I*0=0>.

I hope this helps improve your attitude and understanding of math and logic as a whole.

@Aristosseur
As an American myself, I know that American compulsory education is crap when dealing in subjects using any amount of logic. Higher education in universities is much better though.
@Gardevoir
There is no such thing as an "american way of mathematics." Shame on you to use the name of America in vain. Not even a patriot will sully America with such boasts and pride. Please do not make the rest of America look any dumber than we need to.

Написао 24Hours7Days, 04.06.2011 at 05:55

Написао Garde, 03.06.2011 at 14:40

Написао Aristosseur, 03.06.2011 at 07:29

Написао Vespre, 03.06.2011 at 06:54

4/0
4 peaches divided among 0 people, how many peaches does each person have?





OH, and:

Написао Garde, 02.06.2011 at 21:33

Your basicaly implying for me to ask my teacher to tell me something he probably doesn't even know, as how you worded it makes absolutely no sense to my american way of mathematics.

I lost, hard.

They get infinite peaches
Teachers teaching maths and not knowing limits, either Gardevoir goes to a shit school or american education is terrible.

Either: A. Explain what you mean by limits or B. Fuck off

@Gardevoir
There is no such thing as an "american way of mathematics." Shame on you to use the name of America in vain. Not even a patriot will sully America with such boasts and pride. Please do not make the rest of America look any dumber than we need to.

America to me died when they decided that they wanted to isolate me from my peers at school for being a "socialistic unamerican terrorist" just because I was reading about Karl Marx. So please, if your going to "shame on me" make sure you have reasons other than a pointless thread on afterwind and me being a retard trying to think of ideas to solve the damned thing.

That feel when almost every thread I make become a troll/flaem thread.

Написао Psychostick, 04.06.2011 at 11:45

That feel when almost every thread I make become a troll/flaem thread.

I know that feel.

Zero times infinity = zero!
Infinity times zero = zero!
It just looks confusing with the symbols
Problem solved

Ohboyherewegoagain

Написао BASED Ironail, 06.06.2011 at 05:30

Ohboyherewegoagain

Anything multiplied by 0 must equal 0.

Написао Beast99, 11.06.2011 at 17:40

Anything multiplied by 0 must equal 0.

Anything multiplied by infinity MUST be infinity, ever heard that rule?

Написао Psychostick, 11.06.2011 at 17:53

Написао Beast99, 11.06.2011 at 17:40

Anything multiplied by 0 must equal 0.

Anything multiplied by infinity MUST be infinity, ever heard that rule?

Whatever, 85% of the people who answered the poll agree that it's 0 and not infinity.

I searched this math equation and it says that 0 multiplied by infinity is an undefined number.

1*0=0
100*0=0
10000000000*0=0

0*5645456456=0

infinity * zero = zero

whats the problem with this xD

The problem is that you 14 and 15 year olds haven't been taught maths yet and you post shit.

Let *inf*= x.
x*0=0.

or, once upon a time, there was this thing called infinity and there is none of them. then there is nothing.

Jason you better study more

Let's make a function 3x * (5/x).

As x gets closer and closer to 0, 3x approaches 0 as well.

However, the 5/x part approaches infinity.

If we simplify the original function, we get 15 * (x/x).

As the x goes to 0, the (x/x) part becomes 0 * infinity, which is what all the stupidity in this thread was about.

But since this is concerning x "approaching" 0, as opposed to being equal to 0, we can cancel x/x to be equal to 1.

So in this case, infinity * 0 is sort-of-kind-of equal to 15. If you used a different function, you could get 16, or pi, or any number, as an answer.



So, short answer, for the layman, infinity times zero cannot be done under normal conditions, and is a totally meaningless quantity by itself. Infinity is not a number.


Someone lock this fucking thread.

... infinity * 0 is how you find the area of a circle...

Написао Guest, 17.06.2011 at 20:59

Написао Psychostick, 17.06.2011 at 20:32

... infinity * 0 is how you find the area of a circle...

Umm...I believe you calculate the area of a circle by taking the radius and * it by pi? something like that.

Lmfao. Just lol. I can barely believe I just read that.

I need more sleep.

Написао Guest, 17.06.2011 at 20:59

Написао Psychostick, 17.06.2011 at 20:32

... infinity * 0 is how you find the area of a circle...

Umm...I believe you calculate the area of a circle by taking the radius and * it by pi? something like that.

You obviously are an 8th grader.... Have you ever wondered how you derive that formula? Lemme know and I'll PM it to you, or anyone else that wants to know.

Oh and BTW, it's pi*r^2...

Написао Garde, 04.06.2011 at 11:17

Написао 24Hours7Days, 04.06.2011 at 05:55

Написао Garde, 03.06.2011 at 14:40

Написао Aristosseur, 03.06.2011 at 07:29

Написао Vespre, 03.06.2011 at 06:54

4/0
4 peaches divided among 0 people, how many peaches does each person have?





OH, and:

Написао Garde, 02.06.2011 at 21:33

Your basicaly implying for me to ask my teacher to tell me something he probably doesn't even know, as how you worded it makes absolutely no sense to my american way of mathematics.

I lost, hard.

They get infinite peaches
Teachers teaching maths and not knowing limits, either Gardevoir goes to a shit school or american education is terrible.

Either: A. Explain what you mean by limits or B. Fuck off

@Gardevoir
There is no such thing as an "american way of mathematics." Shame on you to use the name of America in vain. Not even a patriot will sully America with such boasts and pride. Please do not make the rest of America look any dumber than we need to.

America to me died when they decided that they wanted to isolate me from my peers at school for being a "socialistic unamerican terrorist" just because I was reading about Karl Marx. So please, if your going to "shame on me" make sure you have reasons other than a pointless thread on afterwind and me being a retard trying to think of ideas to solve the damned thing.

I feel u gardevoir, america is real condescending of extremists or curiosity in extremists. I started reading Marx in 10th grade, moved on the Engles, Hegel, Ricardo, all those fun guys. One of my teachers tried to suggest my avid reading of these economists/philosphers was distracting my studies and that they were just a bunch of socialists/fascists. mORAL OF STORY: USA is hypocrite