Rushing or not. Turks vs Ukraine.

When playing turks it hard to wall and mange your city with only 4 min. Playing as ukraine you can expand easily. and is able to relax. After battling many people, I learned that playing ukraine s more comfortable then turkey. the problem with turkey is too many city to use and too many to wall against a ukraine. with urkaine you have more time t execute your army. also i learn that ukraine is hard to take down if you don't take kiev in less than 6 turn. after that you will lose, since sky menance can just bomb you to pieces, since they took tons of wealthy city by then

Not really it's more or less depends on how quick you're with your moves. Some players including me don't need more than 2 minutes to operate the usual expansion, and afterwards wall any city we possess. And 3 average minutes if we are experimenting a new expansions.
and average of 3 minute for the rest of the game

Its hard to take Kiev after reinforcement turn? same goes for turkey. after turn 5 turkey has around 100+ units to reinforce. hard to get capped if turkey know what he is doing

I and I assume some part of the competitive players can still beat Ukraine beyond turn 6 with less hassle. Ofcourse you can do it too. But first you'll need to have a bit of experience in the art of slow roll to perform it accurately

Turk has a huge unit production, if you expand well and hold your lines of expansion to rein week youll outproduce ukraine.

i would agree ukraine requires less micro. sm ukraine in particularly. an sm ukraine player has the range to threaten all of turks cities at once. turk needs airtrans to do the same in return. Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

for me my standard turn 2 turk takes me usually the full 4 mins, and ive proven myself to click as fast as the best of them. theres a lot more to do and consider, and walling is important.

I feel ukraine is more dangerous due to its versatility(more expansion and viable strat choices), but overall its a pretty even battle. Turk can be so powerful if handled correctly. The unit production just overwhelms, if youve expanded half decently youll get up to 100 reins per rein week.

My advice to you would be watch how the good turk players tackle enemy ukraines. current notable turk players would be stryko, mauzer(even tho he hates turk), chess, acquiesce, eagles8539, desu, clovis, mou and Ferr has become quite good too. They all have different styles but theres a lot to be learnt by watching any of them.

Написао Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 00:37

Turk has a huge unit production, if you expand well and hold your lines of expansion to rein week youll outproduce ukraine.

i would agree ukraine requires less micro. sm ukraine in particularly. an sm ukraine player has the range to threaten all of turks cities at once. turk needs airtrans to do the same in return. Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

for me my standard turn 2 turk takes me usually the full 4 mins, and ive proven myself to click as fast as the best of them. theres a lot more to do and consider, and walling is important.

I feel ukraine is more dangerous due to its versatility(more expansion and viable strat choices), but overall its a pretty even battle. Turk can be so powerful if handled correctly. The unit production just overwhelms, if youve expanded half decently youll get up to 100 reins per rein week.

My advice to you would be watch how the good turk players tackle enemy ukraines. current notable turk players would be stryko, mauzer(even tho he hates turk), chess, acquiesce, eagles8539, desu, clovis and Ferr has become quite good too. They all have different styles but theres a lot to be learnt by watching any of them.

Are you sure haven't seen Hdrakon play turkey to include him in your post of players to be observed to learn from. In my opinion he's the best player when he play serious

Just play more to learn how to manage, i play turkey all the time so in 3v3s and 1v1s i am much faster than ukraine and i always wall a slow player up because i wall in 6 seconds, but its all about how much you train. i have a slow ukraine because i dont play it and dont know what wins what off the top of my head so i have to calculate.

.............................. Or simply shut down game chat. It works.

Написао Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 00:37

Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

I agree that Turkey takes longer, but, you can still do it in 2-3 minutes if you're familiar with the country.

Написао Kaliraa, 17.10.2014 at 19:22

Написао Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 00:37

Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

I agree that Turkey takes longer, but, you can still do it in 2-3 minutes if you're familiar with the country.

no you cannot.unless you leave your stuff un walled

Написао Khal.eesi, 17.10.2014 at 21:17

Написао Kaliraa, 17.10.2014 at 19:22

Написао Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 00:37

Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

I agree that Turkey takes longer, but, you can still do it in 2-3 minutes if you're familiar with the country.

no you cannot.unless you leave your stuff un walled

When I have time, I'll show you. It just requires very fast movements or practice.
The standard used to be 3 min, and everyone would play with that. And people won as turkey, with 3 min.

Написао Kaliraa, 17.10.2014 at 21:21

Написао Khal.eesi, 17.10.2014 at 21:17

Написао Kaliraa, 17.10.2014 at 19:22

Написао Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 00:37

Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

I agree that Turkey takes longer, but, you can still do it in 2-3 minutes if you're familiar with the country.

no you cannot.unless you leave your stuff un walled

When I have time, I'll show you. It just requires very fast movements or practice.
The standard used to be 3 min, and everyone would play with that. And people won as turkey, with 3 min.

well no disrespect here, but the game advanced alot since then..like real life, back then, was the miedieval times and now its modern times.turks and ukraines are op now, and after the first turn a good ukr will constantly braking and wf' ing balkans and turkey walls, and that means for the turk player, mush walling, killing wf's, mke his own attacks/wf's/wallbreaks and transport/merge his troops from one city to another.not to mention u have to check your enemies moovements, check what's up on west,communicate with your allies and prioritize your actions, before you make moovements.3 min for all this is kinda tough.2 min, just undoable imo..

Написао Khal.eesi, 17.10.2014 at 21:29

Написао Kaliraa, 17.10.2014 at 21:21

Написао Khal.eesi, 17.10.2014 at 21:17

Написао Kaliraa, 17.10.2014 at 19:22

Написао Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 00:37

Its why i generally avoid < 4 min cws, in the east youre handing advantage to ukraine.

I agree that Turkey takes longer, but, you can still do it in 2-3 minutes if you're familiar with the country.

no you cannot.unless you leave your stuff un walled

When I have time, I'll show you. It just requires very fast movements or practice.
The standard used to be 3 min, and everyone would play with that. And people won as turkey, with 3 min.

well no disrespect here, but the game advanced alot since then..like real life, back then, was the miedieval times and now its modern times.turks and ukraines are op now, and after the first turn a good ukr will constantly braking and wf' ing balkans and turkey walls, and that means for the turk player, mush walling, killing wf's, mke his own attacks/wf's/wallbreaks and transport/merge his troops from one city to another.not to mention u have to check your enemies moovements, check what's up on west,communicate with your allies and prioritize your actions, before you make moovements.3 min for all this is kinda tough.2 min, just undoable imo..

i agree with khal, but not for turn 1, turn 1 turkey is fine with 3 minutes, but after that i havent seen anyone manage as many walls needed to keep ukraine weak with 3 min turns