Why are Communists so hard to communicate with?

Написао Skanderbeg, 25.08.2019 at 16:21

Написао Tribune Aquila, 25.08.2019 at 15:41

I have no idea what kind of response you just gave me, you didn't mention a thing I said. I was hoping you would just kind of roll into a ball and cry, but instead you are in denial. Your entire schtick is that communism is the way to go, right? USA is more socialist today than it's ever been, and you're bragging about the consequences these socialist reforms have created.

It's because your IQ is not high enough to understand. Blame your parents for (bad) upringing and 15 years(wasted) of education. Nothing we can help you with.

Look, Andartes. I know you don't have your friend, Tik-Tok, with you at your defense, but you're gonna have to either adopt an entirely new worldview, or refute my points. If you don't do either of those, then I think it's best you leave this bastion of intellectual thought. You aren't welcome here.

Написао Tribune Aquila, 25.08.2019 at 17:56

Look, Andartes. I know you don't have your friend, Tik-Tok, with you at your defense, but you're gonna have to either adopt an entirely new worldview, or refute my points. If you don't do either of those, then I think it's best you leave this bastion of intellectual thought. You aren't welcome here.

Bastion of intellectual thought? Hahaha. All your arguments are invalidated after you used ad hominem, nothing else to continue after this. Debate is won.

I win, you lose.

Написао DeepFriedUnicorn, 25.08.2019 at 16:57

China is more so a Capitalist Economy Communist Government hybrid...A strange nation indeed.

Could be said, but incorrect when you switch to their point of view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy

Communism is invented as replacement ideology for Capitalism, its inventor is German. He made it for the Western World, not Eastern, since East didn't develop Capitalism yet. Yet Communism went East for some reason so its leaders had to address the economic dichotomy.

They invented NEP, to let Capitalism develop, and then take over the economy. Compromise was found by seizing economic sectors of national interest, like banks(finance) ports(trade), rails(transportation) and mines(resources), but leaving farms and factories to people to manage (entrepreneurs, businessman, peasants, workers etc).

Deng Xiapoing, Chinese reformer said him self that NEP is perhaps the best model of Socialism (link above). So for them, the economy is still Socialist, not Capitalist, as not everything is free, it is heavily regulated and requires State approval (30% of Chinese economy is State-owned and Finance is State-owned completey via People's Banks, leaving only Hong Kong and Shanghai stocks to speculate and gamble with their own money).

Maybe this is why they are so succesful? State(Government) controlled economy in the era of financial instability and volatile market. Their growth is unprecedented and living standards skyrocketed high. Now when experts and analysts compare it to India, they can't claim Democracy is guarantor of high living standard and wealth. Both China and India have large populations, one is Communist, the other is Democracy, yet Democratic India lags behind China in terms of economy, military and social order.

Fun fact: China doesn't calculate economic size like USA, using all finance turned over in one year, but only 'real' production and its value. Which mean, China's economy could already be larger than US one, in GDP nominal terms (by GDP PPP it is already bigger).

Написао Tribune Aquila, 24.08.2019 at 22:10

Did you do your undergrad or masters in Economics? I liked your detailed backing of points via real research; your post was well-supported and better than mine

I don't think the high GDP per Capita of cities can be fully explained by social programs, as cities tend to have positive conglomeration effects and a high prevalence of productive professional jobs etc as compared to more rural areas, but I guess social programs might indeed be a factor, even if minor. I never thought of that before, good point.

Capitalism is rape, communism is consensual sex

Capitalism sucks however still the best so far
Same goes to Democracy